[Bnelson]

As I have stated once before in an into thread I'm new to the koup family. After reading more and more I keep having the itch to want to race my sx koup. Fully stock at the moment but never the less we all know the car is fairly quick and has a lot of potential. This is my first actual car I've considered with. Now my question is. Is there anyone in the Kansas city area that has done anything or knows anything like this that would be up to helping a complete newbie out? I would very much appreciate any help

 

[Korean Unicorn]

i'm not in KC.. are you looking for advice on what parts to put on your car or are you looking at getting to some track day events...if its just some track day events..

If you are looking at some sort of track day events.. Kansas City Region SCCA | Your source for news, event schedules, and results for the Kansas City Region of the Sports Car Club of America is a link you should be checking out..

if you want a simple parts idea.. our venders from Tork to Sixth element. for a basic run down of bolt on parts check out my build thread http://www.forteturbo.org/forum/15-kia-forte-turbo-builds/354-k-u-s-steel-blue.html on this page at hit up any member you feel you can talk to.. most of us have been doing performance stuff on lots of platforms...

 

[Forte5]

Really depends on what your looking to get out of the car. Are you looking to do 1/4 mile stuff or looking for like auto cross?

Let us know by what you mean by "race" so we can better help you out.

 

[Bnelson]

Guess I should have been more specific. Parts I know may be different depending on what I want to do. As a good 0-60 helps. I would like to focus more on cross track than quarter mile drags. So fit racing its auto cross.

With parts I was thinking a cold air then ecu tune after and go from there. Thanks for the feed back

 

[Forte5]

I am going for autox and right now I am focusing on my power and efficiency of it. So far I am close to being done but need a few more things then I will fully work on my suspension and brakes. You can see in my sig what I have done so far. Next up is my FMIC and downpipe. Then I am onto my suspension.

I would make a plan of attack on what you want to get setup right first for your car. Being you want suspension done or power first.

 

[Bnelson]

I'm a fan for control. No since in having power if you cannot control it. But if the car on stock breaks and stock suspension can hold like 250hp along with torque then it won't be my priority (maybe breaks)

 

[Forte5]

I am also. What changed my mind was when I took my stock suspension F5 to the autox track I was pretty suprised in how well it did. I was on stock tires and brakes also. Only thing done is the Evilla torsion bar and trunk brace. I also go up into the twisty mountain roads a lot and practice and I am shocked how well it does for stock. Keep in mind my car is a a/t and fully loaded so its not a light base model.

Since it did pretty good at the event I switched from suspension to power. Only thing I can say that has happened from the event is the stock rotors took a beating badly. I heated them up so much you could smell them and the pads. So if your going to push super hard like that then slotted rotors and better pads are in line.

I have slowed down on stuff right now due to funds but I will be eventually starting to get there again and just buy little by little.

 

[Korean Unicorn]

breaks pads and tires.. will be your best bet the chassis braces and torshen bar will go a log way as well. the BC coli overs .. are almost done.. but I think you will find simply replacing your break pads and rotors.. and getting and set of tires for track use.. will go further than any power part.. after that for a simple power upgrade get the Tork Stage 1 tune.. it will clean up a lot of the drive train issues.. and if you want to buy more bolt ons after it will support almost every thing that;s out there you can bolt on in any sort of track environment.. one part if you paln to go racing I would truly suggest is getting the same radiator cap I have ( a high pressure radiator cap) it helps raise boiling temp of your radiator fluid..

 

[Bnelson]

For the tork tune I'm going to safely say it is this
Forte 1.6T Stage 1 Tune | DamnFastDD.com
As I've seen a lot of places say to get that as a good ecu tune.

As for breaks should I get same size for all 4 or keep the size the way they are? Or just change front breaks? Should I get something along ceramics?

Radiator cap. Again I'm new to this world lol. What would the point in this be? To help raise the boiling point as so it won't allow access steam out or to help force the fluid to stay as a liquid so it keeps the engine cool?

Also I'm in the A/T. Dealerships only get one of these as they sell them here and almost never get a M/T as they go for CA mostly

 

[Forte5]

As for the tune thats what a few have here already. The tune will make a big difference but I highly suggest getting a intake and at least a axle back exhaust to take advantage of it

As for brakes I would just get some EBC rotors and EBC pads and you will be good. I think there is a set of stainless lines that are coming out for us to. I am a a/t also. Biggest thing you want to do is keep this trans COOL!!! I put another trans cooler in line for mine and temps have dropped on it big time.

 

[Bnelson]

So brakes, cold air, axel? Or catback exhaust then ecu tune? Won't matter in order as long as I have those done prior to tune to take full advantage of the tune?

 

[Forte5]

You can get the tune now. I just highly recommend that you get a CAI and at the very least a axle back. It is all about the order you want to go. If you get these ahead of time then Tork can tune a bit differently for your upgrades.

I would also look into the dogbone bushings.

2011 2012 2013 Hyundai Veloster Motor Mount Insert Trans Mount Upgrade Race 75A | eBay

2011 2012 2013 Hyundai Veloster Rear Motor Mount Insert Performance 65A | eBay

I have the reds and love them!

 

[Bnelson]

What's the point of the bushings? Do they help with vibrations ( traking a guess)

 

[Forte5]

They will not help with vibrations. There will be more. It keeps the motor sitting in one spot so everything stays in line when shifting or taking off wot. It eliminates or helps reduce wheel hop and helps put more power to the ground

 

[Bnelson]

Oh OK. So a minor thing like that could help so much in a short/long run.

I appreciate all of the help you have given so far. It's opened my eyes a bit

 

[Forte5]

Yes the bushings will help out for when you get more power and for stock. Not everyone likes the added vibrations from them though.

 

[Korean Unicorn]

Every thing Forte5 said is correct.. he is rocking the AT transmission as well.. a transmission cooler is a good ting to get. for your car. And The EBC Pads and Rotors are good as well..

The reason I point to getting a high pressure radiator cap ( for racing) is it give you a bit more over head in the cooling department.. in a race environment.. .. if you are are running a stock 40/60 or 50/50 of water and Radiator fluid.. the higher pressure will make the boiling point about 8% higher.. but what this part does is even better when you start going full distilled water and water wetter.. you can get some real heat protection.. easily adding more thermal protection.. ( keeping you water from boiling).. its just simple protection.. like 15 to 30 bucks.. for a set it and forget it part..

here is a little break down.. of the science of the cap in this link
http://www.tuneruniversity.com/blog...at-advantage-of-a-high-pressure-radiator-cap/

 

[Playwithmymind]

You could always get the new mount bushings and drill them to remove a little material giving them a little less vibration but leaving them firm enough to hold under engine torque.

Did this to both and feel very little from the engine with a A/T in gear and A/C running.

 

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As I have stated once before in an into thread I'm new to the koup family. After reading more and more I keep having the itch to want to race my sx koup. Fully stock at the moment but never the less we all know the car is fairly quick and has a lot of potential. This is my first actual car I've considered with. Now my question is. Is there anyone in the Kansas city area that has done anything or knows anything like this that would be up to helping a complete newbie out? I would very much appreciate any help

My best suggestion to you would be if you are looking to do track, or 1320, go completely stock, keep your time slips, and then purchase your parts. After you add some parts, you will not feel as much power anymore (since you start getting used to it) take it back every once in a while, and compare time slips. With each part added you will get an increase, add a tune and you will get the most out of all of your parts. If you still have any questions feel free to send me a PM or check out out website to see what we offer for the Forte. I am here to share my knowledge and help with anything and everything so do not hesitate to ask anything. Select a Category | DamnFastDD.com

 

[Bnelson]

Ah yes I've been there along with 6th element. I plan on getting the ecu tune from there hopefully soon. Until then I'll focus on cold air and other minor things.

Has anyone found an exhaust that doesn't sound like a fart can but has the simular notes as our Stock exhaust? I feel that the stock has a slight aggressive sound to it but not really. Would love for it to sound more aggressive but not to much if at all possible