[shagger]

I was changing my oil over the weekend and using up some stock from last year when I noticed that the formulations seem different now? Before it met the ACEA A5-02 and now it doesn't? Is this a step back in protection? The bottle on the right is from last year and the bottle on the left I just bought at Menards this month.

 

[staax]

When I was doing research on what oils that were EASILY available to me which met out standards, not a single oil by Quaker State did, so perhaps yes they have since changed their formulas, or the standards themselves tightened up a little.

Only ones were Castro Edge and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.

Of course Amosil Signature and Motul do... But I can't get those.

I find the above hilarious since Quaker State is only what my dealer stocks.

 

[shagger]

When people were talking about the ACEA A5 spec I was excited that the QSUD had it on there, now, not as happy...

BUT...This from the owners manual seems to say it's ok for the Forte5 SX turbo??!?

"Engine oil Turbo GDI engine 4.5 l (4.75 US qt.) ACEA A5 or above"
OR
"For better fuel economy, it is recommended to use the engine oil of a viscosity grade 5W-30 (API SM / ILSAC GF-4 / ACEA A5 or above). However, if the engine oil is not available in your country, select the proper engine oil using the engine oil viscosity chart."

 

[Playwithmymind]

When I was doing research on what oils that were EASILY available to me which met out standards, not a single oil by Quaker State did, so perhaps yes they have since changed their formulas, or the standards themselves tightened up a little.

Only ones were Castro Edge and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.

Of course Amosil Signature and Motul do... But I can't get those.

I find the above hilarious since Quaker State is only what my dealer stocks.

My dealer actually asked me why I didn't let them do the oil changes on my car since it is free and I got this strange look from them when I said "what so you have another reason to void my warranty, no thanks" they only stock 5w-20 conventional bulk oil. Second reason I reminded him of the last trip I had there for a simple fluid change done on the trans (A/T) and the lube tech used gear oil.

 

[Caezar]

Go on Total oils web site to find a dealer that stocks it or stores that sell it locally . I have a dealer 20 miles from me that uses it . They are also said to have the best service I wonder why lol .

 

[staax]

Interesting note at the bottom of your post there Shagger,

"However, if the engine oil is not available in your country, select the proper engine oil using the engine oil viscosity chart."

And playwithmymind,

You had a tech use GEAR OIL in an AUTOMATIC? Oh my God...

My plan for oil changes is simple: find an oil that meets the specs in the owners manual (Castrol Edge). While it may not be a true PAO-based synthetic, I'll be running 6000km (3500) mile intervals so before the oil begins to break down, it would have been contaminated with fuel from blow by and thus be changed out. No plans to tune, track or drag my car while under warranty so I don't see the need for fancy oils such as Amsoil or Motul.

Plus I'm Canadian and trying to get them stuff here is the equivalent of a car payment!!

Total would be a good recommendation if you can get it!

 

[Caezar]

Good luck lol . I stood in a few auto shops trying to find an oil that matched what Kia says to run in this car . Only quakerstate had one I could find on most shelves . I still don't know what A5 and up rating is and I've searched till my head exploded to find out which way the chart goes up or down in performance between A1-A5 . I did find out definately not to use A2 A3 and A5 variants as they are really bad for the car . A1 was up in the air but still does not perform as well as A5 . Motul was said to have a rating of somewhere to A10 and total is A5

 

[honhon]

My dealer actually asked me why I didn't let them do the oil changes on my car since it is free and I got this strange look from them when I said "what so you have another reason to void my warranty, no thanks" they only stock 5w-20 conventional bulk oil. Second reason I reminded him of the last trip I had there for a simple fluid change done on the trans (A/T) and the lube tech used gear oil.

haha... and people think im strange when i tell them i dont want dealers to touch my car either... when i went in for my tail lights i told my service advisor to not inspect my car or even put it close to a lift. he got my drift and he knows i know my stuff about my car so whenever i stop by for whatever reason he knows im one of the customers that will tell him whats wrong, he does what he needs to do, i dont bitch and im on my way...

 

[cosmos]

According to recent PQIA tests, it appears that the QSUD 5W-30 oil of 2013 vintage (with a moly formulation of 58) has been reformulated with a moly content of 252 in the oil tested in 2016. The 2016 oil is spec'ed ACEA A5-02. Does anyone know when the higher moly oil arrived in the marketplace?