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First of all, I'm not looking to trash neither make a bad impression on FR-S and/or Forte owners. Each person drive their car because of something and I respect that.

Now, I own a 2015 Forte Koup SX (M/T). While the car is good, the handling and exhaust sucks. I bought it because I got a great great deal on it. After 4 months I kind of lost interest and felt like mehhh driving it. So I was looking to trade it for a FR-S. I got a killer great deal today ($2000 on downpayment and $380 monthly A/T). Before moving forward I did a test drive and this is what I felt:

Pros:

Nice sound from the exhaust
Good handling
Nice look and color

Cons:

Less room inside
Not too fun in A/T (my left foot was bored)
Didn't have the same acceleration and/or feeling when accelerating
Cheap materials in the stock model
Felt like I was tight


After looking the cons, I dropped the deal and went back to my Forte. I punshed it on the highway and I felt again that nice acceleration. I think the FR-S is nice, but like it needs some work in order to convince me. Also, I think test driving other car that I though it was more that mine made me fall back again for my Forte. I will add an exhaust and a coilovers to improve it.

I just wanted to share this experience and ask in the forum if someone has felt this before with the FR-S and a Forte Sx/Veloster turbo.
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Nouse4, can you link to the rear torsion bar. I have to behoves I'm very keen on looks. The evila strut tower brace doesn't look as nice as the rear one. I think something beefy and shiny is the way to go like the one in the 370z and mustang gt..

As far as Sri vs CAI I may be going with the Sri because I'm not as careful as lost drivers and tend to go over puddles.
This the link for the bar. It was added in the thread earlier.

https://www.evillamotorsports.com/p...1-kia-forte-torsion-bar-2014-2015-detail.html
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So that works for the Forte as well? I thought the Forte had a wider track than the Rio?
Shit, the title said it's for the Forte but the description says Rio.
So that works for the Forte as well? I thought the Forte had a wider track than the Rio?

Shit, the title said it's for the Forte but the description says Rio.
I think that might be an error. We can email the builder to corroborate.
Yeah that's what I ordered for mine. Think the Rio in the description is just a typo. Believe he made the one for the Rio first so likely a copy/paste error.
If you guys haven't looked into the Ultra Racing products for your Forte they are very high quality and come at a pretty reasonable price! You can always email me with what you're looking for (Front strut tower bar, rear stabilizer, mid lower bar, rear strut bar, ect.) or for pricing!

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Nouse4, can you link to the rear torsion bar. I have to behoves I'm very keen on looks. The evila strut tower brace doesn't look as nice as the rear one. I think something beefy and shiny is the way to go like the one in the 370z and mustang gt..

As far as Sri vs CAI I may be going with the Sri because I'm not as careful as lost drivers and tend to go over puddles.
These cars are made pretty well, the under shields do a really good job of protecting lots of water from being splashed up into the engine bay. Now if you're driving into 3 ft of water thats a different story but driving over a little puddle with a CAI shouldnt worry any daily driver. Given that everyone on this forum is running a turbo set up there really isnt any need for a CAI as the air gets heated up going through the hot spooling turbo anyways.

What intake are you looking at?
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If you guys haven't looked into the Ultra Racing products for your Forte they are very high quality and come at a pretty reasonable price! You can always email me with what you're looking for (Front strut tower bar, rear stabilizer, mid lower bar, rear strut bar, ect.) or for pricing!

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These cars are made pretty well, the under shields do a really good job of protecting lots of water from being splashed up into the engine bay. Now if you're driving into 3 ft of water thats a different story but driving over a little puddle with a CAI shouldnt worry any daily driver. Given that everyone on this forum is running a turbo set up there really isnt any need for a CAI as the air gets heated up going through the hot spooling turbo anyways.

What intake are you looking at?
So you're basically saying CAI is useless and a SRI is all we need?

I don't know which one yet. I see a lot of people run the Injen and 6th Element one.
So you're basically saying CAI is useless and a SRI is all we need?

I don't know which one yet. I see a lot of people run the Injen and 6th Element one.
I wouldn't say useless but looking at the purpose of a CAI paired with a turbo vehicle just doesnt make as much sense compared to using it on a N/A motor. A lot has to do with the engine bay set up, SRI's usually come equipped with some sort of heat shield (to prevent sucking in straight engine heat) but if there isnt room for one the preferred set up would be a CAI
I wouldn't say useless but looking at the purpose of a CAI paired with a turbo vehicle just doesnt make as much sense compared to using it on a N/A motor. A lot has to do with the engine bay set up, SRI's usually come equipped with some sort of heat shield (to prevent sucking in straight engine heat) but if there isnt room for one the preferred set up would be a CAI
Sorry for been naive, but if we put a SRI (Injen or 6th Element), we are looking at a potential heat sucking issue? Or this would happen in we take the stock intake and put a cone filter?
Sorry for been naive, but if we put a SRI (Injen or 6th Element), we are looking at a potential heat sucking issue? Or this would happen in we take the stock intake and put a cone filter?
I'll be honest, I don't know how efficient the stock Forte IC is to say if heat soak with a non-heat shielded SRI would would have an affect or not. I don't think there is an Injen SRI version for the Forte turbo?

I wouldn't recommend the cone filter on stock piping as the stock piping is made of rubber which with heat and time will start to collapse due to the weight of the filter

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I'll be honest, I don't know how efficient the stock Forte IC is to say if heat soak with a non-heat shielded SRI would would have an affect or not. I don't think there is an Injen SRI version for the Forte turbo?

I wouldn't recommend the cone filter on stock piping as the stock piping is made of rubber which with heat and time will start to collapse due to the weight of the filter

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Thanks for the information. I will consider a CAI in the future.
Just to add 2¢ in on the suspension parts from Evilla - very good and effective upgrade. I'm constantly pushing my tires to the limit when before the body roll was forcing some reservation on my part.

The strut bar required cutting, but wasn't too hard. The hardest brace to install was the 6 point. I think the 4 point would be much easier, though. Evilla has install videos for the torsion and strut bars. Can't recommend them all enough.

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In all Honesty, I love the look of the FRS/BRZ. However, I could not justify the price for performance, as well as a giant turn off for me is the fact that you can see a huge amount of them just driving to the grocery store. Yes the RWD is cool, but how many Forte Turbo's do you see out on the road? not very many, they are unique, and can be a force to be reckoned with with mods/tuning.
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In all Honesty, I love the look of the FRS/BRZ. However, I could not justify the price for performance, as well as a giant turn off for me is the fact that you can see a huge amount of them just driving to the grocery store. Yes the RWD is cool, but how many Forte Turbo's do you see out on the road? not very many, they are unique, and can be a force to be reckoned with with mods/tuning.
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This is another let down for me. When the salesman told me, please pull your car next to the other to start paperwork, I looked at both side by side. Both looks great, but then I people driving by FR-S, and many people looking at it in the dealership. I noticed that my car will be different than others. The huge amount of them and the lack of performance was turn off.
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This is another let down for me. When the salesman told me, please pull your car next to the other to start paperwork, I looked at both side by side. Both looks great, but then I people driving by FR-S, and many people looking at it in the dealership. I noticed that my car will be different than others. The huge amount of them and the lack of performance was turn off.
exactly, Being different is good now, too many people do the same thing, with the same cars, in the same place. Its good to stand out!
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Anyone know of the Toyota on front here in Toronto? They have this sweet looking half teal half grey goose frs. Inlays stare at it when I pass the car. It's so small hut yeah it's pretty nice especially in that colour.
I should take it for a test drive and put any doubt about our cars being faster. Today be it's more nimble in the corners.
You just can't beat rear wheel drive though.
Anyone know of the Toyota on front here in Toronto? They have this sweet looking half teal half grey goose frs. Inlays stare at it when I pass the car. It's so small hut yeah it's pretty nice especially in that colour.
I should take it for a test drive and put any doubt about our cars being faster. Today be it's more nimble in the corners.
The color you say is the Special Release edition 2.0. I saw it and it doesn't look that great when you actually see it vs the pictures. I think white is the nicest looking color.

About power, we have higher torque and the acceleration is faster. When I test drove it, I actually felt the difference in acceleration, you won't feel that nice push the Forte gives in the FRS. Even my wife was in the passenger side and she noticed it. In top speed, I won't dare to say if the FRS is faster or the Forte since I didn't reach top speed. But the acceleration is noticeable.
You just can't beat rear wheel drive though.
Not necessarily, in a race not only FWD, RWD, 4WD or AWD matters. Many components affect a race like the torque, power, transmition, driver, etc. Using a stock engine with the same driver I would dare to say that we have an advantage in acceleration (around 25% more in torque), but I don't know about top speed. Obviously in corners the FRS will behave way better than the Forte, it was designed for that.
I've played with multiple frs/brz twins on the highway to work ( I work for Toyota now building the 2GR/KAI V6s that go in the camry,avalon, es300...etc.. so you get a nice discount on toyota products plus pay is high.... lots of nice cars) and I can put many car lengths on them at will well into triple digit speeds only with a few mods. I actually stayed door to door with a new Lexus RC350 from work, those things are pigs, pretty but slow considering what they're supposed to compete with and cost.
I've played with multiple frs/brz twins on the highway to work ( I work for Toyota now building the 2GR/KAI V6s that go in the camry,avalon, es300...etc.. so you get a nice discount on toyota products plus pay is high.... lots of nice cars) and I can put many car lengths on them at will well into triple digit speeds only with a few mods. I actually stayed door to door with a new Lexus RC350 from work, those things are pigs, pretty but slow considering what they're supposed to compete with and cost.
Are you talking your Forte vs a FRS/BRZ? If so, thanks for providing this input. I didn't dare to say too much since I haven't raced one. I'm stock and many FRS I've seen in Bay Area I think they might be modded. Until I don't add some extra stuffs to get a meaner engine I think I won't fight one, but comparing stock engines the Forte feels more peppy compared with the FRS.
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