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First of all, I'm not looking to trash neither make a bad impression on FR-S and/or Forte owners. Each person drive their car because of something and I respect that.

Now, I own a 2015 Forte Koup SX (M/T). While the car is good, the handling and exhaust sucks. I bought it because I got a great great deal on it. After 4 months I kind of lost interest and felt like mehhh driving it. So I was looking to trade it for a FR-S. I got a killer great deal today ($2000 on downpayment and $380 monthly A/T). Before moving forward I did a test drive and this is what I felt:

Pros:

Nice sound from the exhaust
Good handling
Nice look and color

Cons:

Less room inside
Not too fun in A/T (my left foot was bored)
Didn't have the same acceleration and/or feeling when accelerating
Cheap materials in the stock model
Felt like I was tight


After looking the cons, I dropped the deal and went back to my Forte. I punshed it on the highway and I felt again that nice acceleration. I think the FR-S is nice, but like it needs some work in order to convince me. Also, I think test driving other car that I though it was more that mine made me fall back again for my Forte. I will add an exhaust and a coilovers to improve it.

I just wanted to share this experience and ask in the forum if someone has felt this before with the FR-S and a Forte Sx/Veloster turbo.
 

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Glad to see some input comparing the two. Unfortunately a big down fall of the FRS/BRZ is they are notoriously slow than they appear to be (looks wise). If you live in an area with lots of windy back roads and get a MT i think you're in for a treat. If you're daily driving and getting an AT it can be on the blah side, not to mention its not as practical as a daily either
 

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There are LOTS, TONNES of mods for the 86. Power add ons like a Vortech supercharger would easily cure what ails you in the acceleration department. Sure it defeats the purpose of a sports car but that's how it is. Not everyone is into big horse power but rather the handling characteristics of the car. I have mixed feelings about it but I'd be lying if I didn't at least mention I was looking at one when I was car shopping. Had Subar or Scion made them more readily available I would probably never be here.

All that said, stock for stock we'd walk them easily. 25% more torque.
 

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There are LOTS, TONNES of mods for the 86. Power add ons like a Vortech supercharger would easily cure what ails you in the acceleration department. Sure it defeats the purpose of a sports car but that's how it is. Not everyone is into big horse power but rather the handling characteristics of the car. I have mixed feelings about it but I'd be lying if I didn't at least mention I was looking at one when I was car shopping. Had Subar or Scion made them more readily available I would probably never be here.

All that said, stock for stock we'd walk them easily. 25% more torque.
I don't want to add too much mods since I'm not racing, but I like mechanics as a hobbie and sometime punch the car. The Forte Koup has a sporty body but it still needs some work too. I dropped the FR-S because I need to drop more money to increase the power into a comfortable zone and the room inside isn't the best. Like I said before, I felt very very very tight on it. I'll keep my Koup and just lower it and add a muffler for better sound output. The power of the Forte is in my comfortable zone, but handling is mehhh. Maybe I'll add an Intake but I will decide on that later.
 

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I don't want to add too much mods since I'm not racing, but I like mechanics as a hobbie and sometime punch the car. The Forte Koup has a sporty body but it still needs some work too. I dropped the FR-S because I need to drop more money to increase the power into a comfortable zone and the room inside isn't the best. Like I said before, I felt very very very tight on it. I'll keep my Koup and just lower it and add a muffler for better sound output. The power of the Forte is in my comfortable zone, but handling is mehhh. Maybe I'll add an Intake but I will decide on that later.
I am in agreement. The only redeeming value of the FR-S is that it's RWD, imo. For the same money, I would rather get the Genesis Coupe. V6 power, great sounding stocked exhaust and can be made to sound beastly with an aftermarket exhaust. Recently Nissan Canada decided to reduce the 370Z base model to the same price as the FR-S and Genesis Coupe base. Simply the best driving experience is the Z but you're pretty much throwing any practicality out the window.

Forte is nice but if I were going to sacrifice any utility, it would be a V6+ coupe. None of this bullshit turbocharged 4 for a balls to the wall performer.
 

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I am in agreement. The only redeeming value of the FR-S is that it's RWD, imo. For the same money, I would rather get the Genesis Coupe. V6 power, great sounding stocked exhaust and can be made to sound beastly with an aftermarket exhaust. Recently Nissan Canada decided to reduce the 370Z base model to the same price as the FR-S and Genesis Coupe base. Simply the best driving experience is the Z but you're pretty much throwing any practicality out the window.

Forte is nice but if I were going to sacrifice any utility, it would be a V6+ coupe. None of this bullshit turbocharged 4 for a balls to the wall performer.
Thanks for pointing out the Genesis Coupe. I've seen it and it is really greate looking and a nice performance by numbers. I think I will drop out of the car swap. My Forte is just 4 months old, it was my mistake for not getting more options at buying moment, but there still some hope on the Forte. Acceleration and inside features are great, but the only killers are the handling and the exhaust compared with 2013 Forte (I regret swaping it). If getting a better handling and a better exhaust will cost me around $5000 more (trade in residue), I think I'll rather spend around $2000 to improve this Forte. The good thing is that this Forte is mine, my previous Forte was leased. I can add or do what ever I want on it.
 

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I seriously considered the BRZ and FRS. I loved my test drives in them. But I was just too cramped inside being a tall guy to use that as a daily. Plus with my last two cars being turbo I have just become accustomed to the torque you get with that. Even though acceleration numbers are pretty much equal to ours. Car and Driver puts both of us at 6.4 to 60 and 14.9 in 1/4.

I also checked out the Genesis coupe. A car that on paper I should have loved but on the test drive I actually preferred the drive of the Forte5 and the Veloster. Still a bit puzzled by myself as to why but it is what it is.
 

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Acceleration and inside features are great, but the only killers are the handling and the exhaust compared with 2013 Forte (I regret swaping it). If getting a better handling and a better exhaust will cost me around $5000 more (trade in residue), I think I'll rather spend around $2000 to improve this Forte..
The evilla bars and some good tires make an immense difference in handling for not much money.
 

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It is just 4 bolts and something you could certainly do yourself. But I would imagine any local tire shop/independent mechanic would do it. Bigger chains may shy away. And any speed shop should certainly do it.
 

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It is just 4 bolts and something you could certainly do yourself. But I would imagine any local tire shop/independent mechanic would do it. Bigger chains may shy away. And any speed shop should certainly do it.
I looked at it now in my desktop PC and it looks simple to install. Sadly I live in an apartment complex and the have a "no mechanics" policy. Although I believe that would be if you are going to swap your engine or break pads, but doing simple stuffs it would be fine. Do I need to drill or jack the car? If it is just 4 bolts, then this would be a piece of cake.
 

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My previous car was a tin can o wheels. Compared to the f5 it's a Damn luxury vehicle lol.


I still get remorse about the car but after I started putting mods there is no going baxk. After 2 years I'd probably get $10 for it so I'll make it more personalized and enjoy having my money in the bank instead.

Nouse4 mousse what's the difference between the brace under the car and the one that requires cutting in the hatch? Is the 4 point brace harcdore? I think I'll start with a front engine mount bar the go for there.
 

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The exterior torsion bar does much more work than the little one that goes in the trunk. The rear suspension is the weak point on this car stock since they went cheap and didn't put in an independent rear suspension. So I definitely recommend starting there rather than the front.
 

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The exterior torsion bar does much more work than the little one that goes in the trunk. The rear suspension is the weak point on this car stock since they went cheap and didn't put in an independent rear suspension. So I definitely recommend starting there rather than the front.
I appreciate all your help. I found a place here in bay area where I can rent a space for do my own mechanics. They provide you a lift system and the tools. So I will mount it myself. In the website evilla has the instructions for the Rio, but I think it might be the same for the Forte.

I made a list of my mods, is this a nice order?

1) Rear tension bar
2) Coilovers lowering (around 2 to 2.25 inches, I don't want the tires inside the overfenders)
3) Lip spoiler

I might drop the exhaust improvement because I realise what makes the engine roar is the CAI, our stock exhaust is fine for me. The FR-S had the same exhaust noice, when I drove it the engine had a better roar. I have a question. Would it be better to put a SRI or just swap the air filter for a cone filter and keep the stock SRI. Keep in mind that I'm not looking to race, just show off and keep the stock performance with some handling improvement. Will the filter swap affect performance?
 

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Nouse4, can you link to the rear torsion bar. I have to behoves I'm very keen on looks. The evila strut tower brace doesn't look as nice as the rear one. I think something beefy and shiny is the way to go like the one in the 370z and mustang gt..

As far as Sri vs CAI I may be going with the Sri because I'm not as careful as lost drivers and tend to go over puddles.
 
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