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Hey there everybody.
I just wanted to throw this thread up so everyone was well informed for when they want to buy aftermarket h.i.d's
If you have an Sx with Premium or Premium Tech, this will not concern you since your vehicle is equip with H.I.D stock. Unless you are looking to upgrade the bulbs themselves
As for everyone else including me that has base Sx Package, your vehicle has the boring old halogen bulbs. Which might i add are UGLY. BORING. AND I CANT SEE JACK S*** while driving. Every vehicle i have driven i always had H.I.D's. THEY ARE A MUST HAVE. My civic had them, and both my Sx Optima's came with them stock. Also as a side note, having projector lens in both our low beam and fog makes this updrade even better. Since projection of the light and cutoff is more crisp and defined. (And we arent blinding oncoming drivers)
Anyway, onto the main event
Most vehicles nowadays come with the option of H.I.D's for there headlights, and alot of these have a common bulb... the H11. Yes there are other makes and models that have other bulbs styles but H11 is the most common used for low beam ( besides a mix of domestic and german/ high end vehicles etc.)
But wait!!! Then there is the H11B. oh the good old H11b. you just had to be different and set yourself apart from the others. There are many vehicles using this bulb, including mostly every vehicle in the Kia/Hyundai line up. Including our forte.
Our low beam is H11b and our fogs are H11
Whats the difference. well here some specs and a picture so you can see for you self
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Here are the technical specifications from the Sylvania Website
This is the standard H11b bulb
Bulb Types It Fits---------------------H11B
Bulb Size-------------------------------T4
Primary Light Output (lm)----------1350
Primary Voltage (V) ------------------13.2
Primary Power (W) ------------------55
Primary Color Temperature (K) --3200
Primary Filament Life (hrs) --------930
Primary Light Output (MSCP)------107.4
And this is the standard H11:
Bulb Types It Fits-----------------------H11
Bulb Size --------------------------------T4
Primary Light Output (lm) -----------1345
Primary Voltage (V) -------------------13.2
Primary Power (W) -------------------55
Primary Color Temperature (K) ---3200
Primary Filament Life (hrs) ---------270
Primary Light Output (MSCP)-------107
What makes this more complicated is that our Headlights are Canbus controlled. Which in the end will cause a mess of issues when installing an aftermarket product. Flickering/One bulb not working intermittently/buzzing from the ballast. and the list goes on. The fix for this is either 1. Finding a ballast that has the capability to modulate this Can signal from the BCM correctly so that there are no issues with the bulb/ballast or 2. When buying your system, including in your order a Canbus adpater kit.
Unfortunately there are far to many companies that make these aftermarket systems. Personally myself i have used DDM tuning and TRS for my vehicles. And just being around so many vehicles at work and in the "tuning" world i have seen my fair share. I can personally vouch for both of these companies. I have used them multiple times with no issues. Both are very good products.
But to come to the main point of this post is what truly matters. You will be told by every place you call that H11 and H11b are the same, they have identical mounting points (which ok yes is true) and H11b is just the part number for a factory bulb.THIS IS ENTIRELY NOT TRUE!!! Why you ask. Well TRS being such an incredibly Lighting company was nice enough to make a video to show and explain exactally why. and you can find that through this link. Please watch and soak in this great info
As far as my reaserch goes they are the only ones to provide this option. The XB35 H!!
I have an H11 set which i have borrowed from a close freind who has a stereo/alarm shop in the area. i installed this in my vehicle today to confirm 100% the information i provided for you today. it is a non canbus system so just as i stated above, had major flickering on both bulbs. But for a small bit of time when they were not flickering. You could 100% see exactly what TRS is stating in the video
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Im going to end this here for now. But there is so much more to be added.The major one being bulb options. Temperature/Kelvin rating differences, and which one is best for your application and use.
That all can be added when i have more time but for now i hope this helps
Edit:
Upon some more research it seems that from 13 14 and 15 yr models they have changed from h11b to h11 for the low beams
But regardless this Information provided in this post is a must read. And the application as far as bulb choice goes DOES MATTER
even though they put the h11 back doe the low beams. The large tab is still on the left of the projector housing. Meaning the information from the TRS video still applies
I have yet to confirm tab location on the fogs. I will post info as soon as I have time to confirm
I just wanted to throw this thread up so everyone was well informed for when they want to buy aftermarket h.i.d's
If you have an Sx with Premium or Premium Tech, this will not concern you since your vehicle is equip with H.I.D stock. Unless you are looking to upgrade the bulbs themselves
As for everyone else including me that has base Sx Package, your vehicle has the boring old halogen bulbs. Which might i add are UGLY. BORING. AND I CANT SEE JACK S*** while driving. Every vehicle i have driven i always had H.I.D's. THEY ARE A MUST HAVE. My civic had them, and both my Sx Optima's came with them stock. Also as a side note, having projector lens in both our low beam and fog makes this updrade even better. Since projection of the light and cutoff is more crisp and defined. (And we arent blinding oncoming drivers)
Anyway, onto the main event
Most vehicles nowadays come with the option of H.I.D's for there headlights, and alot of these have a common bulb... the H11. Yes there are other makes and models that have other bulbs styles but H11 is the most common used for low beam ( besides a mix of domestic and german/ high end vehicles etc.)
But wait!!! Then there is the H11B. oh the good old H11b. you just had to be different and set yourself apart from the others. There are many vehicles using this bulb, including mostly every vehicle in the Kia/Hyundai line up. Including our forte.
Our low beam is H11b and our fogs are H11
Whats the difference. well here some specs and a picture so you can see for you self
Here are the technical specifications from the Sylvania Website
This is the standard H11b bulb
Bulb Types It Fits---------------------H11B
Bulb Size-------------------------------T4
Primary Light Output (lm)----------1350
Primary Voltage (V) ------------------13.2
Primary Power (W) ------------------55
Primary Color Temperature (K) --3200
Primary Filament Life (hrs) --------930
Primary Light Output (MSCP)------107.4
And this is the standard H11:
Bulb Types It Fits-----------------------H11
Bulb Size --------------------------------T4
Primary Light Output (lm) -----------1345
Primary Voltage (V) -------------------13.2
Primary Power (W) -------------------55
Primary Color Temperature (K) ---3200
Primary Filament Life (hrs) ---------270
Primary Light Output (MSCP)-------107
What makes this more complicated is that our Headlights are Canbus controlled. Which in the end will cause a mess of issues when installing an aftermarket product. Flickering/One bulb not working intermittently/buzzing from the ballast. and the list goes on. The fix for this is either 1. Finding a ballast that has the capability to modulate this Can signal from the BCM correctly so that there are no issues with the bulb/ballast or 2. When buying your system, including in your order a Canbus adpater kit.
Unfortunately there are far to many companies that make these aftermarket systems. Personally myself i have used DDM tuning and TRS for my vehicles. And just being around so many vehicles at work and in the "tuning" world i have seen my fair share. I can personally vouch for both of these companies. I have used them multiple times with no issues. Both are very good products.
But to come to the main point of this post is what truly matters. You will be told by every place you call that H11 and H11b are the same, they have identical mounting points (which ok yes is true) and H11b is just the part number for a factory bulb.THIS IS ENTIRELY NOT TRUE!!! Why you ask. Well TRS being such an incredibly Lighting company was nice enough to make a video to show and explain exactally why. and you can find that through this link. Please watch and soak in this great info
As far as my reaserch goes they are the only ones to provide this option. The XB35 H!!
I have an H11 set which i have borrowed from a close freind who has a stereo/alarm shop in the area. i installed this in my vehicle today to confirm 100% the information i provided for you today. it is a non canbus system so just as i stated above, had major flickering on both bulbs. But for a small bit of time when they were not flickering. You could 100% see exactly what TRS is stating in the video
bul
Im going to end this here for now. But there is so much more to be added.The major one being bulb options. Temperature/Kelvin rating differences, and which one is best for your application and use.
That all can be added when i have more time but for now i hope this helps
Edit:
Upon some more research it seems that from 13 14 and 15 yr models they have changed from h11b to h11 for the low beams
But regardless this Information provided in this post is a must read. And the application as far as bulb choice goes DOES MATTER
even though they put the h11 back doe the low beams. The large tab is still on the left of the projector housing. Meaning the information from the TRS video still applies
I have yet to confirm tab location on the fogs. I will post info as soon as I have time to confirm
thus far no side effects... Muahaha
