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what would win in a 1/4 mile drag race a 2015 kia forte koup sx or a 2015 Honda civic si ? the civic si has more HP but the forte koup sx has more torque
 

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R2 eats all civics for breakfast!!!
 

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I'm going with stock cars.

From what I have read online: the Forte is quicker to 60 by half a second. I haven't really found a good answer as to how quick the Forte is in the 1/4 mile. I've found answers ranging all over the 14 second range, up into the low 15 second range.

I'm going to say that our car's are probably in the high 14 second quarter mile time with a decent launch. So the Forte is going to beet the Civic in the 1/4 mile as well due to the Civic only being able to get down the track in about 15 seconds flat. It would be a close race though, and driver error would probably determine the winner.

That being said. The Forte is much easier to make quicker because it is forced induction. Anything you do the Forte will have more gains that it would on the Civic.

*You should also take into considering the different power bands of the engines. The Civic makes most of it's power at the top of it's range, whereas our gamma engine makes its power mid to low range.
 

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you will find the forte harder to launch.. no LSD and higher torque and lower rpm.. but after the second gear change.. you will pull a head.. you wont kill an si.. but you will win.. and you can do it every time.. with a solid 60 foot.. here is the problem.. you will never see a stock SI at a drag strip.. or on the street.. any stock si.. is not going to play with you.. they know they are slow.. a better run for you is The BRZ..FRS... RWD makes those guy think they have a missile on there hands.. you will crush that car with out even trying.. only brz with power adders have a chance with you.. bolt on's wont do anything..
 

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It's not harder to launch when your a a/t! Lol
 

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your auto is harder to launch than a si because it does not have a LSD and you have higher torque.. SI s have very low Torque and only make power up high.. it makes them way easier to get the hole shot than our cars.. and our throttle is not very sensitive to control wheel spin.. the si will get the hole shot.. but you will pull on the top
 

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Not that bad at all really when it comes to launching these A/T the trick is to not stab the throttle as it will build boost to fast and spin. I have yet to be beaten off the line and I am talking about 4 cyl 2wd or most v6s too. It just takes a little practice working with the car to get the most of it with no spinning. If you are stock you shouldn't have that many issues but as you modd you will notice it gets harder. Adjustable shocks and springs mixed with a decent set of tires will help a lot.
 
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My car never just spins with how the tune is. My car will skip a tad but it just pulls as soon as I go wot from a dig. If I was at full bolt ons with a crazy tune yeah I can see not having the lsd being a issue.

I beat a lot of cars from a dig including the si. When I have played with the si all I hear from them is wheel spin while I am pulling away.
 

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Not that bad at all really when it comes to launching these A/T the trick is to not stab the throttle as it will build boost to fast and spin. I have yet to be beaten off the line and I am talking about 4 cyl 2wd or most v6s too. It just takes a little practice working with the car to get the most of it with no spinning. If you are stock you shouldn't have that many issues but as you modd you will notice it gets harder. Adjustable shocks and springs mixed with a decent set of tires will help a lot.
I was thinking the same thing. I noticed that when I use that first gutless second before the turbo spools to just get the car rolling I can romp on it right after and have almost no wheelspin.

No joke R2 eats all civics for breakfast...
 

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you will find the forte harder to launch.. no LSD and higher torque and lower rpm.. but after the second gear change.. you will pull a head.. you wont kill an si.. but you will win.. and you can do it every time.. with a solid 60 foot.. here is the problem.. you will never see a stock SI at a drag strip.. or on the street.. any stock si.. is not going to play with you.. they know they are slow.. a better run for you is The BRZ..FRS... RWD makes those guy think they have a missile on there hands.. you will crush that car with out even trying.. only brz with power adders have a chance with you.. bolt on's wont do anything..
the scion fr-s is slow I seen a you tube video of the 2014 fr-s with a 6 speed manual getting beat my a 2014 scion tc in automatic , and the scion frs with a 6 speed manual is supposed to be the faster then the automatic
 

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The frs is slow. The guys that buy them buy them for looks and to be apart of a trend. Yeah its 200hp but the tq is low to what we have. I run them all the time and they get pissed when a Kia beats them. Only ones worthy are the boosted ones
 

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A guy at work just picked up a Yellow '15 FRS TRD. I will be the first to admit, it looks really sharp. But that's all it really has going for it. I would love to race the guy, but I doubt that will happen.
 

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the scion fr-s is slow I seen a you tube video of the 2014 fr-s with a 6 speed manual getting beat my a 2014 scion tc in automatic , and the scion frs with a 6 speed manual is supposed to be the faster then the automatic
all true.. the only real issue is its super easy to make a brz fast.. like 5 grand ls swap.. or 3 grand turbo.. and that car is off the races.. just wish we had the aftermarket support that cars.. i'm running out of bolt on parts to test.. I guess ill have to do a big k build just to test more parts...
 

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all true.. the only real issue is its super easy to make a brz fast.. like 5 grand ls swap.. or 3 grand turbo.. and that car is off the races.. just wish we had the aftermarket support that cars.. i'm running out of bolt on parts to test.. I guess ill have to do a big k build just to test more parts...
I agree. I check all the sites daily to see if anything new has come out.

I love the exclusivity we have and the "wtf a kia with a bov" that I get but it comes at a price.
 
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Stock for stock given equal drivers, it's a drivers race with the SI being perhaps a touch faster.
 

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Stock for stock given equal drivers, it's a drivers race with the SI being perhaps a touch faster.
I'm no F1 driver so unless all the si civics I have raced were driven by morons then our car is faster hands down. These are all races from a dig and not a 40 or 60 roll.

They just can't hang
 

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I'm no F1 driver so unless all the si civics I have raced were driven by morons then our car is faster hands down. These are all races from a dig and not a 40 or 60 roll.

They just can't hang
when you raced the civic si did you have your 6th element short ram intake and resonator delete installed ? from doing research online car and driver has the forte5 sx in automatic beating the civic si from 0 to 60 by 1/10th of a second and beating it in the 1/4 mile by 2/10th of a second, motor trend has the civic si beating the forte koup sx from 0 to 60 by 7/10th of a second and beating it in the 1/4 mile by 1/2 second, the civic si and the forte sx is pretty evenly matched , I still would rather have my koup sx over a civic si , because the forte koup sx gets its turbo boost after 1750 rpm and the civic si gets its v-tech boost after 4000 rpm so you have to drive the civic si really hard otherwise it feels slow
 

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Honestly I never go by what the articles say. It's all about the driver and some of those mags are bias on what they like. I go test drive them myself to compare.
 

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What is there to drive on the bone stock Forte5 SX other than floor it with the traction turned off? I have yet to go against a Civic Si or FRS, but on all my hard launches I'm just mashing the throttle to the floor with the tiptonic shifter pushed to the left so it shifts at red-line. I haven't had too many chances to get crazy so maybe I have no idea what the hell I am doing?!? :)
 
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