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    That cup is mostly condensation which is going to happen when you run hot air into a cooler container, Did i hear him right that he said it was fuel? oil dose not float on top of gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forte5GT View Post
    I rarely see 5th or 6th when commuting. I know it's probably bad for fuel economy but Yolo!

    Car feels more peppy above 4k.
    I would rather worry about wear than fuel economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RROYCE46 View Post
    Heading out on Monday the 12th from Calgary to Vancouver,Victoria,Ferry to Seattle & back home through Spokane.Will try to find a steep mountain climb to keep above 3000RPM for 20 minutes on route to blow the gunk out.My all stock 2014 Red Koup SX Premium has only 22600 KMs.Should I put Techron additive in on the highway or in city traffic?
    This should be a great trip for me & the car.
    Car has not skipped a beat since I got it & really like it.Only issue I have found is black carbon deposits on back of the car. Good news is I was told that means I'm driving it hard enough.
    Maybe try some SeaFoam? It can go in the oil, gas and directly to intake (where you get the billowing clouds of smoke), in fact I wonder how it would help carbon buildup using it regularly and if it should go in fuel or oil or both... hmmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forte5GT View Post
    I rarely see 5th or 6th when commuting. I know it's probably bad for fuel economy but Yolo!

    Car feels more peppy above 4k.

    I bet that's hoe v8s are like at low rpm grunt.
    Actually, this car has ALL its torque available low, like at 1750 RPM, you just get HP instead at higher RPM's to accelerate a little faster. But ya, you are creating more wear on your engine by preferring the HP over torque at higher RPM's. Either way you'll have that half second or so of lag as you go on the throttle hard, but you get plenty of pull starting lower too, it's one of the benefits of a low geared car... I can be in 6th, going about 55 MPH. maybe 2500 RPM, and still just have to floor it instead of shifting down, it has plenty of pep... Personally I usually shift a little higher than what the shift light recommends, but I leave it turned on so I know an acceptable time to shift when I am in fact going for economy and smoothness for my passengers with my manual, but when going for fun/acceleration, you bet I lay into it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLACKHOLE View Post
    That cup is mostly condensation which is going to happen when you run hot air into a cooler container, Did i hear him right that he said it was fuel? oil dose not float on top of gas.
    Good point, if it's mostly condensation, doesn't that get burned off anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danbfree View Post
    Good point, if it's mostly condensation, doesn't that get burned off anyway?
    Yes and it is a good ADI aid.

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    Excuse the naivety here. so the breather side stuff was at some point vapour and has condensed into liquid form, in the catch can. Where would it normally go without a catch can, and would it condense there too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus View Post
    Excuse the naivety here. so the breather side stuff was at some point vapour and has condensed into liquid form, in the catch can. Where would it normally go without a catch can, and would it condense there too?
    Yes, it was vapour. Or rather a mist. Oil mist. Oil mist that goes to the air intake. Air intake that goes to the turbine... and then IC and so on. So overall it would finally get its way to the engine, but first cover in oil film all of the mentioned earlier.
    Is it bad?
    Well, IC - lesser heat exchange.
    Turbine - heavier, less efficient. Not to mention possible burns, uneven weight...

    But those would happen at very drastic driving habits.
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    So I went ahead and put my OCC for a while. I still must sort out the leaks... it is the cheapo eBay with level.

    I extended the "inlet" so that it drives like 3/4 the depth and I packed the OCC with steel wool, so it does very nice job separating liquids from air.

    I put OCC on the PCV - TB side.
    After 250 miles it was on during pretty hot weather (ambient at night +15 C, days up to +32 C, low humidity). It collected about 50 ml of solution.
    Some moisture, but mainly fuel. Nope, not oil. Fuel. Of course contaminated with oil, but mainly petrol.
    I confirmed it with "burning" test. It caught on fire very easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLP View Post
    So I went ahead and put my OCC for a while. I still must sort out the leaks... it is the cheapo eBay with level.

    I extended the "inlet" so that it drives like 3/4 the depth and I packed the OCC with steel wool, so it does very nice job separating liquids from air.
    Hey PLP,

    Not sure if it was just a typo but did you actually use steel wool?

    The cheap DIY method is to use stainless steel scouring pads (like you use for your dishes):



    Steel wool has been known to be rather brittle and may brake apart and get sucked into the manifold. And despite it getting caked in fuel/oil, some of it may end up rusting too and then you'll get that in your engine.

    The scouring pads are much less likely to break apart.
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